|Msg 273158 of 274441 at 6/19/2019 7:18:49 PM by
Re: CNN cuts off Trumpís speech
>>bobhouse_98: How many lies are you Liberals up to now? 10,000 lies, 20,000 lies?<<
Perhaps. But with a population of at least 100 million "liberals," that is an average of 1 lie per 5000 "liberals". The 10,000 plus lies from a single individual sets a new record in both depravity and scum level.
>>bobhouse_98: Most of them are exaggerations or off the cuff responses.<<
Well I'm glad you acknowledge the piles of lies, at least. That they were "only" "exaggerations or off the cuff" will indeed make me feel just swell, as I think back on the war (with Iran and/or NK) that they resulted in, or about a ton the kids ripped from their parents at the border, or the endless promotion of dictators around the world by Trump, that have successfully deprived millions of their rights and a decent life.
That the Trump regime is actively shoveling top secret weapons secrets to the Saudis -- about as repressive a regime as their is on the planet, and the one that brought us 9/11 -- is another piece of Trump treason that doesn't really thrill me.
>>bobhouse_98: Trump is not a career politician<<
He made donations to both the Democratic and the Republican party, party committees, and candidates until 2010 when he stopped donating to Democrats and increased his donations to Republicans considerably.
A nice start, by buying his way in.
In 1987 Trump spent $94,801 (equivalent to $209,068 in 2018) to place full-page advertisements in three major newspapers, proclaiming that "America should stop paying to defend countries that can afford to defend themselves."
Make no mistake. That was a political move. It accomplished nothing else, especially in the context of a confirmed ego-maniac who doesn't spend a dime that is not in his direct financial interest.
In 1999, Trump filed an exploratory committee to seek the nomination of the Reform Party for the 2000 presidential election. A July 1999 poll matching him against likely Republican nominee George W. Bush and likely Democratic nominee Al Gore showed Trump with seven percent support. Trump eventually dropped out of the race, but still went on to win the Reform Party primaries in California and Michigan.
Not, political? Horseshit.
Trump publicly speculated about running for president in the 2012 election, and made his first speaking appearance at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in February 2011.
Trump was, perhaps, not a conventional politician. But that is mostly because he has never been interested in doing anything to help "the people." He can't understand even the simplest of laws as they exist (nor can he understand the Constitution), so a stint as a law MAKER in congress would never have flown. More than probably any other politician, Trump's interest in politics has ONLY been in increasing family wealth and feeding his ego/insecurity -- Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner made $135 million last year, for example, and that doesn't even begin to touch what Trump has racked in by attracting people looking for quid-pro-quos in consuming the services that his various properties offer. For example, he bumped up the dues for Mar-a-Lago "access for the rich to buy their president's favor" by $100K/yr, in the first month of presidency (1/24/2017). That is PURE corruption, but Trumpites accept that as the norm (but only the norm for Cult leaders of HIS ilk).
On top of that, Trump has conducted probably the greatest exercise of its kind in the history of the planet, in establishing a policy non-disclosure agreements from both employees and contractors (and anyone else where he had the leverage). The non-disclosure agreements stipulated (with financial consequences in the $ millions) not only the usual that signatories keep "legitimately confidential" information quiet, but also that signatories could say absolutely nothing remotely negative about Trump and his family, FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIFE. That is one of the most ambitious (and largely successful) efforts to hide one's crappy history from future voters in the history of the planet. If you don't think that Trump had politics in mind when he signed on to that policy, then I think you are even dumber than I now think you are (if that is possible). Kinda doubt that Trump thought it up by himself, though -- Roy Cohn, the disbarred crooked lawyer was probably Trump's most influential early mentor (although he was also a active student of Hitler's techniques, and kept a book of Hitler's speeches by his bedside. You should listen to Hitler's speeches sometime -- you will find a lot that is familiar, such constant announcements that "the press is the enemy of the people" (except for Fox, Trump's "voice of Trump's divided America" service, with which he discusses "strategy" nearly daily)(Funny, but I don't recall electing Hannity)
>>DJIA approaching a historic high<<
DJIA flat for that last year, market uncertainty at a peak, hard to do much worse than that. Farmers taking a beating, Trump practicing pure Dictator Socialism as he doles out money to them. More government planned (Socialism) moves as his tariffs favored Steel while fucking manufactures that USED steel for their products, with his carefully? selected tariffs) Also, in terms of growth rate per year in percent, the record is pretty mediocre, by no means outstanding. Especially in the context that it is mostly financed by debt, which now lays at the feet of our children to repay.
>>Unemployment lowest since 1969.<<
Merely a linear extension of the trend set by Obama. All Trump had to do was let it coast. Which he did by largely by accident, since he sucked at getting legislation through a congress of his own party.
>>Hard to beat. No lies there!<<
Oh, yes, there are lies there. Lies of omission. None of those stories are complete when you skip the issue of debt financing, or facts like the fact that Trump's admin has created a record for the longest period in history without a federal minimum wage increase.