I have been buying this one. They are officially a producer. Check out their presentation and their latest news release. Run the numbers as they ramp from 25 mlbs to 125 mlbs and check out mine life. Shares fairly tightly held. Can't think of a better way to play copper right now. I chased it late last week and early this week so it's settling around my cost. I'm looking to add from 1.05 on up. I think this is an easy 1.5 CAD stock soon...then higher. I'm a long term copper bull.