You guy's keep repeating the lie """What started as a " special operation" to consolidate hold on Crimea & Donbass has morphed into major war due to NATO & U.S.
involvement endeavoring to " weaken" Russia while using Ukrainians to take the pain."""

This is such a pile of excrement from the bull, first there was the invasion of Crimea.

The second invasion was an all-out attack, from all borders land, sea and air. The goal was to take the capital, and Putin believed by taking the capital and the major cities the war would quickly be over.

You do not invade with the largest invading land army since WW2 to hold a couple of provinces. I do not understand why people twist the story; everyone saw the invasion on TV. Everyone saw the 45-mile-long column of tanks, artillery and soldiers. Everyone saw Russia's attempt to take Odessa on the south, Kiev in the North and everything in between.

Total Bullshit should not even be allowed to post on the board.