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Msg  438933 of 452267  at  8/4/2022 11:45:24 PM  by

Wiggling

The following message was updated on 8/4/2022 11:56:48 PM.

 In response to msg 438925 by  Zerospam
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Re: BIDEN ADMINISTRATION CALLS FOR CENSORSHIP ON ENERGY

Sounds like a complete twisting of what she actually said:
 
<<The big picture: McCarthy said that overall, the problem of disinformation has shifted from disputing the reality of climate change to inaccurate claims about the feasibility and benefits of moving away from fossil fuels.
  • "Now it has moved from denial, but the dark money is still there. The fossil fuel companies are still basically trying their best to make sure that people don't understand the challenge of climate," she said.
  • "Now, the challenge really is, how do we accelerate the solutions we have available to us, the technology improvements that we've seen that are most cost-effective, in fact cost-competitive with fossil fuels."
  • "And what the industry is now doing is seeding, basically, doubt about the costs associated with that and whether they work or not.">> 
 
It's completely true that the discussion of climate was filled with misinformation or outright gibberish for years. Just like the recent discussion around COVID or the discussion around evolution or what used to be the "debate" about smoking. Bleach or horse dewormers anyone?
 
There is a real discussion about some of the bad modeling and failure to explain unknown errors in the very complex models needed to describe climate. That, however, is light-years away from the basic science of the greenhouse effect. 
 
I don't know whether her claim is true that industry is funding disinformation about the benefits of moving from fossil fuels but I wouldn't be surprised.  
 
Anecdotally, it seems that people are actually beginning to experience what climate change will do to life. 100+ degree days make you lethargic and simply change the pattern of life. More extreme weather events like floods and hurricanes can wipe out areas in a blink. 
 
Wildfire smoke can make the air unbreathable and spreads over vast regions. I have family in Park City UT in the gorgeous mountains and the air quality last year was terrible. Do you want to raise a kid in an area where the air is dangerously unbreathable for a period of the year? Asthma and lung diseases anybody? 
 
As people experience this more and more, eventually reality will sink in for the majority. At that point, it's probably too late (and might already be too late) to prevent the severe effects of warming. 
 
Wiggling 
 


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