Dave......Are you really so naive or is it that you have such a ridiculous politcal agenda> What if the same waterboarding of a Playbboy Mag writer (Boy that's a statement all in itself) was and actual waterboarding conduct in some plae we will never know anything about? You'r obviously an intelligient person whom, it seems, doesn't address this intelligient public board in other than a presumption that we are all stupid. What if the the WB goes to 30 seconds or 60 seconds? What if the person drownds? What if the people who live are willing to say anything to stop the torture? Do you know what I THINK of waterboarding? I think it is a farce; a false presentation and public misrepresentation of real torture tha i have personally witnessed in the Republic of S. Viet Nam.
It is amazing what little comes out of nebulous and dubious media sources about what goes on behind closed doors and how gullible you are.
Torture is a few men tied to a stake in the ground with no water or food and being beaten.....in 115 degree heat. I say so very reluctatnly because I know this could come back on me in ways, but i thought i should give you a real dose of reality while you smugly drink your old scotch from your comfortable, very full of shit armcahir, spouting about torture. What if you were one the guys tied to the stake and you died and the torture was worth zero? You are so far off the page sometimes.....You don't have a clue about real torture in war. You are like so many idiots that have never been in war that still think within the small reason of morals and what is acceptable.
When there is a war, there are no morals and everything happens, acceptable to you in your armchair or your perception of reality or not. The only way I could probably convince you of what I am saying is to beat to within an inch of your lifef, tied to a stake in 115 degree heat. It is the greatest absurdity to think that any kind of torture in war is anything so immoral as war itself.......the ultimate hypocrazycraxycrazycrasy/ The ultimate hypocrasy is to think that war has moral rules and to think that waterboarding is the worst of tortures used in wartime or peacetime. It is therefore, the ultimate naivete' of people who don't know the harsh realities of war. War is the ultimate torture. Get it?
Please, don't anyyone think I was involved in such an event but, at the time, it didn't seem any more extreme than the most general of circumstances. When you look at the worst of human behaviour on a daily basis, there is little that can shock you, especially when bombs are falling. Then you are permanttly shocked. PTSD.