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YATM: Yet Another TSCOG lie^W MisrepresentationTaking (for no particular reason) TSCOG's statement in the SCO v. IBM hearing on April 14, 2006, that:
let's start chasing rabbits down holes and see what we find. Some groundwork had already been done at http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20060508230734757:
------- page 53, line 2 thru page 54, line 16 discusses item 53 from SCO's list of material allegedly misused by IBM. It discusses an email from Tim Wright which can be found here:
http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0012.2/0497.html Since I prefer working directly from the LKML archives, let's find this post and see what (if anything) was going on... Tim Wright was not the original poster in this thread, and in fact made only three posts out of eight total posts made to the thread "[RFC] Semaphores used for daemon wakeup" started by Daniel Phillips, see http://lkml.org/lkml/2000/12/17/94 dated Sun, 17 Dec 2000 13:06:10 +0100 Daniel Phillips starts out with a Request For Comments:
Phillips immediately corrects himself:
< suggested to me by Arjan Vos. Actually, his name is Arjan van de Ven - sorry Arjan :-o Thanks also to Phillip Rumpf for auditing this patch for cross-platform correctness." So Phillips is working on (I'm paraphrasing, here..) kernel task scheduling with suggestions and review from two other parties. A reply is received from Nigel Gamble dated Mon, 18 Dec 2000 16:14:56 -0800 (PST) -- so we're already into the next day:
It is also the method that a lot of operating systems already use." At Mon, 18 Dec 2000 19:34:05 -0800, three hours after Nigel Gamble's statement, Tim Wright replies:
It certainly works, and I find it very clear, but of course I'm biased :-)" OK: so Phillips publicly requests comments on the LKML for his approach after receiving prior assistance from two other people, and a day later Tim Wright says he likes it because that's how we did it in DYNIX/ptx (Sequent). Did Phillips receive information from Wright about how to craft his approach, or did Wright merely encourage Phillips after the fact? Which came first, the horse or the cart?
atomic_inc(&bdflush_waiters);
up(&bdflush_request);
down(&bdflush_waiter);
so that bdflush will issue the correct number of up's even if the waiter
has not yet gone to sleep. IOW, is your approach in DYNIX the same only
in spirit, or in detail?"
Catch that? In his reply Phillips asks Wright if the two approaches are the same. And, he goes beyond that and asks if the two approaches are the same only in spirit, or in detail. Does that sound like Daniel Phillips has received prior instruction from Tim Wright as to the methods and concepts used to solve this issue in Dynix/ptx? Hell no. It doesn't sound anything like that at all. In fact, Tim Wright goes on in reply:
this is not how we generally would achieve the goal, although the approach looks valid. We have a number of primitives available that are not currently used in Linux (unless I'm losing my eyesight :-)" What does that sound like to you? To me, it sounds like "Yeah, that's not quite how we did it, but it looks like it would work..." And Phillips says:
If I could have a new primitive for this job it would be up_down(sem1, sem2), atomic with respect to a sleeper on sem1. And please give me an up_all for good measure..." In closing, let's review TSCOG's statement:
Is that what happened in this LKML thread? Nope. Another TSCOG lie, plain and simple. i_s_g
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| Msg # | Subject | Author | Recs | Date Posted |
| 1415 | Re: YATM: Yet Another TSCOG lie^W Misrepresentation | infosecgroupie | 15 | 7/22/2006 1:58:50 AM |
| 1416 | Re: YATM: Yet Another TSCOG lie^W Misrepresentation | neal_r_rauhauser | 3 | 7/22/2006 2:28:51 AM |
| 1598 | Re: YATM: Yet Another TSCOG lie^W Misrepresentation | dwiget001 | 2 | 7/24/2006 10:01:31 AM |


















